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R. Brad White Predicts Return of Jesus Christ – Save the Date

 With the increasing popularity (and disdain) of “Jesus is coming on x date”, I thought I would join the ranks of those with a Jesus second coming prediction.  I hope you aren’t disppointed.  But before I give the date, let me build up some suspense.

Previous Failed Predictions of Return of Jesus Christ

 Harold Camping, long-time president of Family Radio, has made numerous end-times predictions, such as May 21, 1988, September 6, 1994, and May 21, 2011 (followed by a physical rapture on October 21, 2011). Just in case you missed the news…it didn’t happen. He seems to have recanted his failed predictions, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see another as soon as he figures out the problem with his calculations. Can someone buy a brother a better calculator? 

I just read of another end-times prediction by Ronald Weinland (a self-proclaimed prophet) and leader of a church called the Worldwide Church of God (or just Church of God). Ronald Weinland’s predictions have included April 17, 2008, December 14, 2008, and September 29, 2011. Just in case you didn’t hear the news…none of these predictions has come true. And his latest return of Jesus Christ prediction is May 27, 2012. I suppose we will have to wait and see on that. But I won’t be planning to pack a bag and get my estate in order on May 26. 

R. Brad White Predicts Jesus Return – Drum Roll Please 

OK, so the title of this article stated that I, R. Brad White, would have my own prediction of when Jesus Christ will return. Here it is… 

Matthew 24:3 (NIV) “As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 

Now, I don’t presume to be as smart as Jesus, and I don’t claim to be wiser than Jesus’s very own hand-picked disciples. But even they didn’t know when he would return. 

Matthew 24:36 (NIV) “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” 

Now, I don’t presume to be as smart as the angels in heaven, nor the Son, nor the Father. Here is a hint for Harold Camping, Ronald Weinland, and others of their kind: Only God the Father knows the day and hour of Jesus’ return to reign on this earth.
Now, I don’t presume to be as smart as the angels in heaven, nor the Son, nor the Father. Here is a hint for Harold Camping, Ronald Weinland, and others of their kind: Only God the Father knows the day and hour of Jesus’ return to reign on this earth. 

 So, here is my prediction: He will come when He comes. 

Be Ready…But Don’t Try to Predict It 

Matthew 24:37-42 (NIV) “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.” 

The Bible says here that when He comes it will be a surprise to everyone. He could just as well come in the middle of me typing this message as He could come 100 years, 500 years, 1500, 20,000+ years from now. Who knows? Harold Camping and Ronald Weinland don’t have a clue…that’s for sure. Are they good students of interpreting the Bible to uncover hidden clues to the return of Jesus?  Did they stumble upon the verses sited above from Matthew 24? Apparently not. 

Why Write This Article? 

Like me, you may be wondering why I would write such an article as this.

 Two reasons: 

  1. For those of you that think you know when Jesus will return…would you kindly keep your mouth shut? And please please please don’t write a book about your predictions. You might sell some books by feeding off interest in this hot topic. But at the same time, you make the rest of us Christians look like idiots. And you reinforce the negative Christian stereotypes we are trying to reverse here at Changing the Face of Christianity.
  2. For those of you that desperately want to know when Jesus will return…   please don’t pay attention to the likes of Harold Camping and Ronald Weinland. Share this message with others that they will also not be deceived. Help us bring rationality in our discussions with other believers as well as non-believers. Help us Change the Face of Christianity by using the wisdom of the Bible to counter the distortions put forth by today’s many false teachers. 

Wondering what my next article might be about? I may take a stab at the end of the world Mayan Calendar prediction of December 21, 2012. Have you marked your calendars yet for that? Make sure and save the date. Expect an article on or around December 22, 2012.

Frequently Asked Questions: An Interview with R. Brad White

 What inspired you to start Changing the Face of Christianity Inc?

God whispered in my ear several years ago that the face of Christianity needed to change. I felt called, and I have simply answered that call by saying YES to God. Our mission is to reverse negative Christian stereotypes (such as homophobia, intolerance, judgmentalism, hypocrisy, and others) by helping Christians be more like Jesus Christ.

God prepared me well for this enormous challenge. I was an atheist for much of my adult life, yet raised in a Christian home. So I’ve seen Christianity from the outside and inside. Although many Christians are living their faith and bringing glory to God, there are far too many so-called Christians who dishonor God through their lives.

Non-Christians use the negative stereotypes we are trying to reverse as a convenient stumbling block to accepting our faith.
Non-Christians use the negative stereotypes we are trying to reverse as a convenient stumbling block to accepting our faith. I see traditional evangelism efforts falling short because most outsiders have already made their mind up because of the poor witness of Christians they know. As a secondary goal, we are trying to prepare the field (through Christians being a better witness of Jesus Christ through how we live), so that future evangelism efforts are met with openness and a positive Christian experience.

But to be clear, our main objective is not to evangelize and bring people into the faith. There are countless organizations already doing this much better than we can do. We are focused on building up those already in the faith. Helping Christians mature and transform into Christ-likeness is the key. We do believe our efforts will lead to more people accepting the faith. You bring them in, and we help build them up into mature Christians who glorify God and truly change the face of Christianity that outsiders see.

 

 What has been the response?

The overwhelming response has been positive. But as with any organization or public position, there are those that disagree or think we are off the mark. We take the negative opinions with an open heart and an open mind. We are teachable…just like we expect other Christians to be. However, we won’t allow people who oppose us to deter us from our goal.

The people who support us agree that there are far too many people out there giving Christianity a bad name…which dishonors God.

The people who oppose us think we are just trying to be culturally relevant or watering down Christianity until the masses think it’s palatable. It’s been difficult to change their minds, but they couldn’t be more wrong. We call Sin, Sin. We don’t water down the truth of the Gospel. However, our firm belief is that we can be a Christian faith that holds strongly to our essential core beliefs…yet still loves other people who don’t live or believe as we do.

Here is one of the more controversial examples of the divide that exists. As Christians, we believe that homosexuality is a sin. You’ll never hear us say anything to the contrary. However, how should Christians treat a homosexual? Should we reject the person? Should we not try to relate to them and understand them…so that we can reach them? Should we ridicule them and shut them out of our churches? Should we kick them out of our homes and families? My opinion is no.

We should first and foremost LOVE them. Love bridges the gap between our attitudes and beliefs about homosexuals. The problem is…homosexuals don’t feel loved. They simply feel rejected. REJECTED. And it goes deeper than that. PEOPLE are rejecting them, but they feel rejected by God too. Because of what WE do to them, they feel that GOD doesn’t love them or care for them. When we take on the role of Judge on behalf of God (a role we have never been given), we send the wrong message in my opinion.

There are those that say they SHOULD be rejected because of their sin. This is where the conflict arises. You can’t reject them INTO the faith. Rejecting them won’t influence them to BE different. Love is the only way. And to speak frankly about it…we suck at loving the unlovable. In everyday practice, most Christians find it virtually impossible to hate the sin but love the sinner. Instead, what homosexuals experience is both hating the sin and feeling hated as a person. 

I’ve made this point many times. We all sin. And homosexuality is just one of many sins in this fallen world.

I’ve made this point many times. We all sin. And homosexuality is just one of many sins in this fallen world. If we rejected and kicked out of our churches and families everyone who held onto a sin…any sin…our churches would be abandoned and empty. It is only through God’s grace and mercy that any of us can stand in His presence. We all struggle with something. And only through the power of the Holy Spirit are we able to change. We believe that welcoming these people with open loving arms increases the chances that the Holy Spirit can work in their lives.

But, back to your question about the response. Again, most people are incredibly supportive and feel that we are echoing their beliefs and attitudes about what must change within our Christian faith.

 

What have you discovered since starting CFC?

There are many Christians out there that are disgusted with what they see happening within our Christian faith. Pastors are molesting children, elders are falling into moral temptation, churches are attempting cover-ups, we see snake-oil televangelists, and overly political Christian attention seekers. Those get everyone’s attention, and unfortunately help us take the focus off of ourselves. There are far fewer Christians willing to look at themselves and seek to change through the power of the Holy Spirit.

I’ve heard stories about incredibly unchristian behavior from your average Sunday churchgoer. Such as a Campus Crusade group, or fellowship of Christian athletes group beating up or threatening someone who wasn’t willing to pray with them or convert, and people going through a divorce feeling shunned and judged instead of loved. I’ve witnessed “evangelism” conversations on facebook between Christians and non-Christians that pushed the non-Christians further away right before my very eyes.

Most of all, I’ve discovered Christians who so desperately want to SAY something to a non-Christian that they aren’t willing to LISTEN to them. Instead of earning the right to witness to them by first building a relationship, I’ve seen ineffective Christians shot down in flames because the person in front of them was treated like a manipulatable object instead of a real person.

We should evangelize, but mostly through how we live our lives. It appears we are ill-equipped to do so effectively. At Changing the Face of Christianity, we hope to change that over the long term.

 

What have non-believers or atheists said in regards to your organization?

It’s been interesting. The non-believers and atheists who catch the vision of what we are trying to accomplish cheer us on. They are incredibly happy that our organization is working to make a difference within the faith. Many of the atheists that we have met are FORMER Christians…or at least people who grew up in Christian homes who would have called themselves Christians at some point in their earlier lives. In many cases, these are the outspoken people who have been negatively impacted by the negative Christian stereotypes we are trying to reverse. Again, a secondary goal of our ministry is to help keep these people within the faith before they feel compelled to leave. There is a lot of work to be done in this area.

In reference to our primary goal of reversing negative Christian stereotypes, some tell us it’s a lost cause and we are wasting our time, and that Christianity and all religions need to disappear from the face of the earth. Effectively they are saying we are un-savable, so why try? 

The biggest disappointment I’ve faced in talking with atheists is the incredible animosity and lack of trust that exists between us. We’ve earned the mistrust. And the animosity is a result
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The biggest disappointment I’ve faced in talking with atheists is the incredible animosity and lack of trust that exists between us. We’ve earned the mistrust. And the animosity is a result. For example, the lead sentence of most Christians in conversation with an atheist is “you are going to burn in hell.” That may be true (only God knows who is in His book of Life), but do you think presenting the Gospel in such an antagonistic way is going to warm them to the faith?

Some Christians engage in a “relationship” with a non-believer for the sole purpose of converting them. And once the job is done or they give up, the relationship is OVER! I.e. There was no relationship. They were just manipulating them without true love for the person. People see right through this disingenuous tactic and it reinforces the stereotype that we don’t truly love people. I engage with atheists for the relationship first. And if my life and example influences them positively toward the faith, then I’ve done my job.

 

Why is it important to look at ourselves before going out and evangelizing?

Because our credibility is actually important to those being evangelized to. If we don’t practice what we preach, why would someone want to join us? The Gospel does transcend our own behaviors. In other words, even if we don’t live up to the ideal we present, this shouldn’t stop us from witnessing to others.

However, consider an obese person trying to convince you to adopt a particular diet to lose weight. You would reject it and rightly so. Even if the diet works and was full of truth, you would dismiss it because of the messenger. So, metaphorically speaking, in the Christian faith we have a diet which works and is full of truth, but the people out selling it (evangelizing) are grossly overweight.  We need to shed some pounds before the message we want to share is credible and believable. Live a life consistent with the message and although there are still some that will dismiss it as a hoax, the “diet” has more likelihood of being adopted.

 

I like the section on “Christians Doing Good”. How important is that?

When we started Changing the Face of Christianity, I felt it was important to present not just the bad things we do (trying to educate and convict people of the need to change), but also to present the clearly good things we do. There are so many Christians in the world doing so much good. I don’t position it as a “hey, look at us doing good”. God’s word says we should do good but don’t call attention to it for our own glory. If we do, we have already received our reward in full. However, I position it in terms of what some Christians have done, that others can take and repeat. I look for working models from one community that others can learn and apply in their own community.

I think this is very important. People are always asking the question “what can I do?” There are people out there doing it. And so if we can spread the word, help others connect with them, and encourage others to carry it forward, then we can make a difference in this world.

 

Do you feel the tabs you have on your menu (judgmental, intolerant, hypocritical, homophobic, etc…) open up the conversation about the Christian perception mission, and vision for the future of the Christian nation?

 We are humbly shining a spotlight on our own weakness and then saying “let’s do something about it together.”
The tabs are intentionally “in your face” when you come to the site (www.changingthefaceofchristianity.com). We want to stand out as different from your average Christian ministry…because we are different. We aren’t hiding our imperfections. We are humbly shining a spotlight on our own weakness and then saying “let’s do something about it together.” It has opened up conversations that otherwise wouldn’t have happened, and we hope it opens up more in the future.

 

Tell us about the Christianity Quiz and how folks can take it.

You can take the Christianity Quiz at http://www.ChristianityQuiz.com. It’s a short, 10 question self-assessment to determine how Christian you are. Instead of quizzing on things like Bible trivia or academic theology, we’ve created a quiz that evaluates the Christian believer’s thoughts, words, and actions in light of scripture and the teachings of Jesus Christ. Do your thoughts, words, and actions indicate you are a spiritually mature Christian? Or do they indicate you are far from Christ, worldly, or just a “good” Christian?

First take the quiz and see your own personals results. Then, see the results from everyone else here: http://www.changingthefaceofchristianity.com/insider-news/christianity-quiz-results-sign-up

We created the quiz to be a catalyst for positive change within our faith. If you score highly on the quiz, it means you are generally presenting a positive Christian image to the world by consistently living your faith. If you score lower on the quiz, it indicates there is some conflict between the teachings of Jesus Christ, Christian beliefs, and how you think and act in the real world. If you don’t score so well, we encourage you to recommit to living your life as a worthy disciple of Jesus Christ. That will take hard work and submitting to the Holy Spirit. Let us know how we can help you in that growth and maturity process.

 

What’s your favorite Bible verse and why?

I have several.

Mark 12:30-31 “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength.’  The second is: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.”

This is my favorite verse because it’s what Jesus Christ said are the two MOST important commandments. So, if I’m not doing this…then nothing else really matters.

Proverbs 3:5 “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not rely on your own understanding.”

No matter how much I learn or grow in the faith, my first priority is to trust in the Lord and walk in faith in Him. When I think myself wise, that’s when I know I’m in trouble.
When I was an atheist, I completely rested on my own understanding. I couldn’t acknowledge what I didn’t understand, namely spiritual things. Now, I use this verse to keep me humble. No matter how much I learn or grow in the faith, my first priority is to trust in the Lord and walk in faith in Him. When I think myself wise, that’s when I know I’m in trouble.

1 John 3:18 “Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.”

Love is a verb. Do it.

 

Anything you want to add?

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We see church small groups as a key avenue for growing mature Christians. We are piloting a new method for doing small groups that moves people from simply studying our faith to living it. If you lead or are in a small church group, contact us for more information at  http://www.changingthefaceofchristianity.com/about/contact-us

Should Howard Schultz have Caved to Homosexual Activitist Censorship?

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Last week, Willow Creek Church and its association held its Global Leadership Summit; a worldwide leadership conference for Christians. Every year, this conference invites a cross section of our population to speak and share leadership principles to help improve our world. Past speakers have included Jim Collins (“Good to Great” book author), Daniel Pink, Seth Godin, Jack Welch, and others. Willow Creek invites leaders to share their not-exclusively-Christian message to A LOT of Christians worldwide. This year, Howard Schultz, CEO of Starbucks, was invited to come, and he accepted. I have no doubt he would have shared some pearls of wisdom from his book “Onward” that sells in Starbucks stores worldwide. However, when homosexual activists protested his presence at the conference, he caved and withdrew from the speaking engagement.

So, the question this week is: Should Howard Schultz have caved to homosexual activist censorship? Other related questions that also come to mind… Was this an appropriate response? Does the homosexual community benefit from this censorship? Does the Christian community benefit from this censorship? Does Starbucks, it’s customers, employees, and stockholders benefit from this censorship? Would you have recommended he speak or stay home?

Obama Won’t Defend 1996 Defense of Marriage Act

(New York Times)

President Obama has determined that the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which bars federal recognition of same-sex marriages, is unconstitutional and should not be defended by the Justice Department. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr added “The president and I have concluded that classifications based on sexual orientation are unconstitutional.” Such classifications should be subjected to a strict legal test intended to block unfair discrimination.

President Obama concluded that classifications based on sexual orientation are unconstitutional
Some people are denouncing the decision and gay rights activists are applauding the decision. “This is a great step by the Obama administration and a tipping point for the gay rights movement that will have ripple effects in contexts beyond the Defense of Marriage Act,” said Anthony D. Romero, the executive director of the ACLU. He continues, “It will reach into issues of employment discrimination, family recognition and full equal rights for lesbian and gay people.”

What do you think about the decision?

Originally posted on http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/us/24marriage.html?scp=1&sq=obama%201996&st=cse

Christians Urged to Act Together to Expose Charlatans

(Ghana News Agency) – Kumasi, Ghana

The Clergy have been urged to act together to expose charlatans, creating confusion through strange Bible teachings and doctrines.

It is important for all those professing to be Christians to mirror Christ-like lives and become good examples to the rest of society.
Enoch Immanuel Agbozo, an Evangelist, said the name of God and the dignity of the Church should not be allowed to be defiled by self-appointed “Ministers of the Gospel”, whose only motivation is money and self-glorification.

He said it was important for all those professing to be Christians to mirror Christ-like lives and become good examples to the rest of society.

They should uphold the values of integrity, humility, modesty and accept to live in total peace and harmony with all.

He was speaking at a three-day inter-denominational congress held at the Maranatha Evangelistic Ministries International Auditorium in Kumasi.

It was held under the theme “Crowning the King of Glory, Jesus Christ”, which brought together, leaders of the various churches and Christian societies.

Agbozo asked Christians to continue praying diligently for God’s direction and guidance in the battle against the anti-Christ and anti-Church forces in the house of God.

“The church is faced with a spiritual challenge, as there is growing attempt to disengage with Christ and replace the Ministry of the Holy Spirit with human power. Some are pursuing knowledge of human nature and natural disorder, instead of the will, way and knowledge of God.”

Originally posted on http://www.ghananewsagency.org/s_social/r_25785/

Book Review: Generation Ex-Christian by Drew Dyck

Drew Dyck of Christianity Today has published an excellent book titled “Generation EX-Christian: Why Young Adults Are Leaving The Faith…And How To Bring Them Back“. It’s part of our recommended Christian reading list. I highly recommend it.

Drew breaks down the people who leave the Christian faith into 6 groups based on how they think, the types of reasons they give for leaving, and how to connect with them on their level and explain the gospel in a way that is compelling for them. Just as feelings and emotions won’t sway an intellectual into believing, using intellectual or rational arguments with someone who doesn’t believe in absolute truth or “western logic” won’t sway someone that is more into eastern mysticism or spirituality.

Here is a summary of the 6 groups defined by Drew in his book:

  1. Postmodernists: reject Christianity’s exclusive claims and moral absolutes. They care about the poor and oppressed, but feel that Christian faith is too narrow. They see LOTS of gray and don’t connect with black and white, one ultimate truth reasoning. As an example, when comparing two religions that have contradictory beliefs, a postmodernist would be less likely to conclude that either one is THE truth, but would take bits and pieces of truth from each one, most typically by comparing those truths to their own personal experience (e.g. Their Truth).
  2. Recoilers: These leavers may cite intellectual doubts as the reason for their departure, but deep hurts and psychological scars are what really caused them to abandon the faith. These recoilers are not to be confused with Modernists (the next group below) which truly do reject Christianity or any religion based on intellectual reasons. Drew’s point is that MANY of those he interviewed cited intellectual reasons initially, but as he probed deeper, he uncovered a pattern of painful experiences within a church community that led to seeking an intellectual way to rationalize or legitimize their desire to leave.
  3. Modernists: Modernists completely reject supernatural claims. They believe God is a delusion and if not scientifically provable, he is dismissed as a superstition. These folks won’t believe it until they see it. And even if they were to see it, they would need to see it again and again until they could scientifically predict the recurring presence of God using the scientific method. This group is very tough to reach indeed.
  4. Neo-Pagans. First a definition of “Pagan”. Pagan generally refers to those who believe in many Gods. It’s more about their connection with a spiritually undefinable higher power than it is about how they practice their faith or any specific religious rituals. So, a Neo-Pagan as expressed by Drew is one who denies the reality of a single, transcendent God. They view the earth as the ultimate source of true spirituality. They view God and the universe as the same. The largest Neopagan religion is Wicca.
  5. Spiritual Rebels: They don’t want anyone telling them what to do.  The temptation to engage in sinful behavior and the desire for self-actualization or autonomy cause them to push God away. From the Christian perspective, obviously God has something to say about good and bad behavior. And when one’s desires generate “bad” behaviors, the tendency is to not correct their course but to deny they need correction.
  6. Drifters: Drifters don’t leave for intellectual reasons or because of any particular event. They simply drift away. God just becomes less and less important until one day He’s no longer part of their lives. In this group you will find many churched or “saved” individuals, former “promise keepers”, former evangelists, and former “on fire for God” believers. In fact, if you asked them, they probably wouldn’t say they ever left. They most likely still associate with the name “Christian”, but their life is lived as if they were non-believers. There is another book that addresses these Christians. It’s called “The Christian Atheist: Believe in God but Living As If He Doesn’t Exist” by Craig Groeschel. It’s also on our reading list.

Drew’s book was very enlightening about why current evangelism efforts are becoming impotent to our younger generations. After each chapter of Generation Ex-Christian, drew talks about how to bring each group back and it’s well worth your time to read.

It exposed some disturbing trends I wasn’t aware of, such as the growth of a religion called Wicca which is known for it’s witches and spells, worship of the earth and many Gods, and it’s appeal to a younger female population. If you want to know “what’s going on with kids these days?”…then pick up a copy of Generation Ex-Christian by Drew Dyck.

Here are some thoughts from the Changing the Face of Christianity perspective. This book and the conclusions it draws are incredibly important to the future of our faith. Consider this: these “leavers” used to be part of our community of believers. They left. Each group has arguments and reasons for doing so. The Gospel isn’t the problem. But how we apply the Gospel to our lives and how we teach it to younger generations must be done in a culturally relevant way.

One big example is how we evangelize. There are some methods that will always be effective…personal testimony; sharing how Christ has worked in our lives. Because even if post-modernists reject any “meta narrative” or overarching story to explain why the world is as it is, they will value your personal testimony because it is YOUR personal experience.

We need to help post-modernists experience our Christ, so they adopt it as their own truth. One way is to engage with them in service projects aimed at helping make the world a better place. They WILL join you, because they would consider it a noble cause regardless of any faith based reason for wanting to do it.

My belief is that “recoilers” need a Knight in shining armor to defend them and create a safe place within our faith. They’ve been hurt by people in the church…and so they don’t trust us. These people need to be surrounded by loving folks who will acknowledge the pain, hold accountable those who caused the pain (e.g. not excuse it), and create an environment where trust can be regained.

For modern leavers, we need to continue to speak the truth, but get much more educated on our apologetics. These people use reason, rationality, and logical arguments as the basis for leaving. That’s fine. They are many rational and logical arguments for why Christianity is true and why the Bible is valid and worthy of our trust. However, we’ve done a poor job of learning these reasons. We are called to live by faith and some people use that as an excuse to not learn basic apologetics (defending our faith). We should live by faith in the things we don’t understand, but we should also seek to understand why we believe what we believe, and share that with the world.

Wiccans have a profound respect for earth, the environment and nature. That’s great. We are called to be stewards of this world and this is an area we should have in common. Join these very spiritual folks in projects which seek to make the world a better place. One distinction is that Wiccans (from a Christian perspective) are worshiping God’s creation rather than worshiping the creator. So, as we work along side these people, help them to understand Who you are worshiping and why you think it’s important. God is clear that we are not to make idols out of His creation. But we CAN and should take care of His creation as an expression of worship and love for Him.

Rebels leave because that’s what they do. They don’t want to be a part of any establishment that attempts to enforce any particular way of thinking or behaving. So they leave a family, they quit a job, they reject a church. How can we bring them back? Love them without rules and conditions. Make sure that you teach them (before they leave) that Christianity and church is not about do’s and don’ts…it’s about a relationship with Jesus Christ. There are things God doesn’t want us to do (sin) and we can’t avoid or minimize that. However, for these special people in our lives, we must focus on the relationship and connection they can have with Christ. Teach them right from wrong, but express it in terms of guiding principles for one’s lives…not in terms of rigid rules that one must follow in order to be saved. We are ALL saved by grace alone, not because we do all the right things.

Drifters just drift away. My feeling is it happens because they slowly distance themselves from a close group of authentic Christians. Eventually they find themselves outside of the group. We must encourage relationships and close connections with other believers. Get them involved in community service projects and groups that meet on a regular basis. This is easier than ever with Facebook. Stay connected with Facebook and continue to reach out TO these believers. But here is the key: you won’t know these people are drifters until they are gone. So, find a group of fellow Christians and STAY connected. Reach out to those who miss an event. Call, email, facebook poke, etc. Also, raise your awareness of people who might want to join your group that might be too shy or lacking self-confidence. Take it upon yourself to ask them to join your group. Make them feel at home and comfortable. In other words, share Christs love within your group and make sure people are quickly accepted and encouraged to participate.

Changing the Face of Christianity strives to be part of the solution. We will continue to address these vital issues of our church and faith on this site. We invite you to join our cause and support our mission.

Barbara Bush (twin daughter) Supports Gay Marriage

homophobia, homophobic

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“I’m Barbara Bush, and I’m a New Yorker for marriage equality.”
Barbara Bush, one of former President George W. Bush’s twin daughters, is appearing in a new video voicing her support for same sex marriage as part of a Human Rights Campaign. What do you think on this issue?

Thou Shalt Not – What You Are Never Allowed To Say To Non-Christians

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Thou Shalt Not Say…

What I’m presenting is simply a list of things that enrage the other side
I’ve learned many things over the years about what NOT to say to an Atheist, a non-Christian homosexual, or any other non-believer. I call them the “Thou Shalt Not Say Commandments”. We should always be prepared to speak the truth, and I’m NOT suggesting you hold your tongue when faced with false teaching. What I’m presenting is simply a list of things that enrage the other side. Things that set them off. Things that end discussion and cause resentment instead of the opposite, which is hopefully one of your goals.

Consider Where The Conversation Will Go

Do you want to continue a conversation with the other side, or do you want to end it and never return?
Like when you are on a first date with a new lady, and she asks “How do I look in this dress?” There are good responses and there are insanely stupid responses that will end the “date” immediately. Consider my suggestions in that context. Ever been asked, “Do I look fat in this dress?” Be VERY careful :-) . Do you want to continue a conversation with the other side, or do you want to end it and never return? Be wise is all I’m suggesting.

Be Prepared and Think First

Whenever we speak, we need to be prepared for the response we are likely to receive. If you are an adult, you consider this BEFORE you speak. So again, feel free to speak the truth…I encourage you to do so. Just do so with full knowledge of the response you’ll get.

I’m only going to list a few here, and I’d like you to finish the list with your own experience. Share your own “Thou Shalt Not’s”. When we are through, I will prepare a white paper to distribute so we all know the ground rules. Again, let me know your thoughts.

Thou Shalt Not! Commandments

Thou Shalt Not Say…

Quoting the Bible to an atheist is like them trying to counsel or correct you by quoting from Lord of the Rings

  1. Homosexuality is a sin (It is a sin, just like many other sins heterosexual sinners commit everyday, but we are not allowed to say it)
  2. Homosexuality is a choice (There is a lot of debate here, but be prepared for war if you ever say it)
  3. Stop cussing please“, or “can we just be polite?” (Google “Tone Trolling” for more info. Whereas in evolved cultures and societies common decency in communication is a virtue, the opposite is often true when talking with the other side). You are not allowed to be offended. Only they can be offended by your desire to be civil. You are not allowed to control what they say, but they are allowed to control what you say by suggesting you stop trying to make them play nicey nice. My only real suggestion here is to live and practice what YOU believe. If you think you should be nice during a conversation…then be nice. If they aren’t nice back…consider it the price for engaging with someone with a vastly different worldview.
  4. You are going to go to hell if you don’t accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. AND, what have you got to lose? If we are right, then you are saved. If we are wrong, you are no worse off.” Atheists and rationalists have a name for this argument. It’s called “Pascal’s Wager“. It’s a little too involved to explain here, but I encourage you to read about it on wikipedia. Now, usually this argument is not met with a lot of anger back. However, they’ve heard it many times before and will quickly zap you for being uninformed about the common use of this by believers. In truth, it’s not a good argument. So, I agree with the opposition on this one. There are many stronger apologetic arguments, and this one just isn’t necessary or helpful.
  5. Never Ever Ever Quote the Bible. John 3:6 says… OK, when we are in our cozy Christian circles, quote the Bible all you want. In fact, feel free to quote the Bible to atheists. Just accept the fact that they don’t regard the Bible as legitimate. Speak the Truth? YES! But quoting the Bible to an atheist is like them trying to counsel or correct you by quoting from Lord of the Rings or The Da Vinci Code. If they believe the Bible is fictional like those best-sellers, it won’t aid you in your conversation. If you aren’t sure about this, ask first “Do you believe the Bible is true?” If they say no, then talk to them using sources that they DO accept as truth. Quote from Darwin’s Origin of Species. Or quote from a book by Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens. They may actually hear you.

Again, I’ve got a lot more of these, but I want to hear your list.

Case for Christ Webcast Seeks To Answer Two Biggest Objections to the Faith – March 12, 2011

Answers to Christian Faith Objections

Why does God allow pain and suffering?
Bestselling authors Lee Strobel and Mark Mittelberg present the latest scientific and historical evidence for Christianity in a Case for Christ webcast this coming March 12, 2011.

They will answer the two biggest objections to the faith. Plus you can ask your own questions during this live event.

1 Peter 3:15 tells all Christians to be ready to defend why they believe what they believe – yet most Christians don’t feel prepared to do so. This one day event will help participants walk away encouraged in their own faith and feeling more confident in discussing the claims of Christianity with friends, family members, and others.

Date: March 12, 2011, Live via satellite & webcast

Times: 8:30 am – 2:30 pm MST, 9:30 am – 3:30 PST & CST, 10:30am – 4:30 EST

Where: Maybe your church or a church near you? See the list of Case for Christ host sites

Important Event Info: This event is simulcast and delivered only via church host sites. You can’t register and watch this on  your own computer. So, pass it on to your church leaders and see if they want to become a host site or join another local church already set up. The church host site fee ranges from $595.00 to 1,295.00. There are links at the bottom of this post to get more information.

What Will Be Discussed?

Discover affirmative scientific evidence for God.
Several high-energy sessions featuring music, visuals, and easy-to-understand illustrations, as well as time for dealing with the provocative questions submitted by satellite viewers, including:

  • Affirmative scientific evidence for God (note: the contents are appropriate for any church, regardless of their position on age of the earth.)
  • Historical evidence for Jesus’ divinity.
  • Confronting why God allows pain and suffering, which is the biggest objection to Christianity that is raised by skeptics.
  • How Christians can deal with questions raised by their seeking friends.
  • Lee and Mark respond to questions from the satellite audience (via email, text messages,) and the studio audience.

Event website and place for people to submit questions to Lee and Mark for the event: http://caseforchristianitylive.com/

To register or get information about how your church can become a host site: http://incastevents.com/the-case-for-christianity-2/

A Productive Conversation Between Atheists and Christians

Can We Talk?

Let’s suppose we could put our differences aside for a little while and just have a productive conversation together, what should Atheists and Christians talk about?

Let’s put our differences aside and talk about ways we can work together for the common good of society.
We have an opportunity in our future to have such a public conversation and we are looking for topics of discussion.

We want to avoid the usual suspects: Does God Exist? etc… Instead, let’s talk about ways we can work together for the common good of society. Let’s talk about what we have in common. Let’s talk about…(your turn to fill in the blank). Or if you would rather see us DO something together instead of talk, share your thoughts on that too using the comment area below.